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the interesting article addresses an important issue, but it seems to stay on the surface and probably to ignore the broader picture.

(traditional) christianity in the western world generally is on a decline, the numbers of members is dwindling.

the reasons are manyfold.

and there is no quick–fix.

what i miss most in articles like that are different approaches to the problem; for instance, i would have expected sociology, systems theory, cybernetics, psychology, culture etc. which help to get a better grasp for the deeper lying problems.

also i would have expected a deeper look at those churches who grow, not through sheep stealing, but through real conversions.

the answers of of the article seem to me somewhat trivial.

would be interesting how they work out on the long term.

a professional qualified evaluation (from the viewpoint of organizational development) would be even more interesting.

what i see here look more or less like pious myths — as in pray more and harder, or believe more, etc.…

sorry to say.

i wish the author would have chosen a deeper, more academic approach instead of generalisms…

having said that, there are, however, correct observations.

we need to reach out for the younger ones, and give them the opportunity to mature, to try something out — and to fail (we need in general a high failure tolerance amongst our paid and non-paid staff).

those who lead need to to coach the younger ones.

back when i was a teacher, at a parent–teacher conference a young father once told me, in a fit of desperation:

"i really try to raise my kids right by telling them how to do things the right way — but then they just imitate me…“ (as in: how i live, how i speak and/or act…)

that was spot on.

the next generations learns by observing us…

…should make us think…

this applies to us as pastors as well as to all those who have a role or function in the congregation, and even to all members of the congregation – how do we treat each other, how do we treat others, including the younger and weaker ones, and how do we lead?

and are we able to step back from power games, and even give up power?

do we live our faith and act merciful to each other, are we willing to give each other the grace we’ve received from g–d?

that’s how we teach.

and we all know what it’s like in some of our congregations, how we treat each other…

…oh, well…

also, main questions of congregational development — which are essential part of the the broader picture — i miss in the article, like:

who are we - what makes us tick, and where are our strengths and weaknesses?

what are we here for, why has g–d sent us to this particular place - what is our task here in the community, for the community?

where do we actually want to go, and where do we want to be with our congregation in ten or twenty years; what kind of church community do we want to leave to our grandchildren?

but that’s probably just me.

(and apologies for my inchoate mastering of the english language — i usually understand more than i’m able to express; sorry for that.)

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Bill Gross's avatar

Thank you for this post! I appreciated seeing it in the "LCMC By The Word" newsletter that arrived yesterday. Now I'm trying to figure out how Substack works ;-) I am an "older" LCMC seminary student at ILT. God's blessings! Bill Gross

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